Acton Bike Cycling Club ride in Swansea falls foul of Ford driver who can't wait

Videos of bad driving hindering cyclists are not new – but this latest one conveys extraordinary impatience.

A Swansea cyclist captured the moment when an impatient driver did everything he could to overtake a bunch of riders in a space little more than 100 metres.

The Ford driver goes wide of the cyclists after restarting from the traffic lights before cutting off their route into the central lane to turn right.

Jason Trueman, the rider who took the video on his Go Pro camera, was on his first ride with Acton Bike Cycling Club and admitted that the group of 100 riders did not feel safe when the driver overtook.

“I was worried,” he said. “They looked a bit shook up. It would only have taken another couple of seconds’ patience to go around.

“He probably thought he must have been able to get enough space to go around. I know it’s difficult with a large group though, and it was awkward.”

  • ghh

    Yeah. Those poor, poor cyclists. Braving the weather. Cycling home after a hard day’s work. Saints, every one of them. And then that evil driver. In a CAR! How dare he? And on his own, what’s more. He should be strung up.

  • Jan Tore

    The thing that strikes me is this: Look at this slab of more than a ton of metal, with one person in it (there almost always is). Then there are 10 cyclists, braving the weather, cycling home from work. Who should give way here? I guess it’s too warm in the car? Too dry, to little wind, too comfortable for this poor auto driver?

  • Hans Stiles

    I cannot confirm the accuracy of the numbers posted, but if this really was a group of 100 riders, then it shows poor judgement by the organizers. It is impossible to police such a large group of riders, as demonstrated by the poor road positioning shown by just the small group in that video clip. Smaller groups of riders, placed around 200-400m apart would have been easier to control and allowed the organisers to more closely monitor riding standards, road positioning, etc…

    I’m an experienced club rider and the maximum group I will happily lead is 20 and even that becomes a challenge, especially in built up areas.

  • Gerald

    Having said that, the car driver knew that they personally were bearing left, so it would’ve been courteous if they hadn’t tried to overtake on the right (and so not have to cut back to the left in front of other road users).

  • Gerald

    I don’t think there was much wrong. Biggest problem is that no one really knew what other road users were intending to do.

  • Ceiclo

    They were in the left hand lane, which is the correct lane for going STRAIGHT across the junction, which is where the cyclists were going.

    The cyclists then turned right, AFTER the junction.

    The right lane at the junction is for turning right at the junction, not for going straight across it.

    Seriously, is this so hard to understand?

  • Malcolm Thistle

    They were not in the correct lane. They turned right very soon after, some swerving across the front of the car without signalling their intentions.

  • Malcolm Thistle

    As well as being a cyclist, I am also a motorcyclist and I drive. I hear so many comments from motorcyclists about bicyclists blocking traffic and causing jams. I always point out that it’s CARS that cause jams, not cyclists. As a motor bike rider as well, I have no problem passing bicyclists. This driver was inconsiderate- par for the course. and yes, the cyclists seemed to behave with a “pack” mentality which gave them the right to ride with little consideration for others in this case.

  • ghh

    Blaming the cyclists? For what exactly? Nothing happened.

  • Ben Evans

    Anyone who is an experienced cyclist whether in a group or not wouldn`t ride like this. In saying that the driver is one of many who drive like this on a daily basis. I do agree with what you are saying though… The last paragraph i think is bang on!! Well said!

  • //@®©

    Anyone blaming the cyclists in this video shouldn’t be using the roads at all and needs to re-think how they conduct themselves in such a situation.
    The driver is already straddling the lane before taking the ridiculous and dangerous manoeuver and can quite clearly see far enough ahead to know that trying to squeeze by is insane. The lead cyclists (who are obscured by the way, how can you see them indicating or not ?) are doing the right thing in such a group and riding defensively as supported by the highway code. They are already negotiating the turn way before the car gets there. The other cyclists are concentrating on controlling their bikes while the insane motorist carries on regardless and tries to squeeze past. The guy with the camera does raise his hand to signal to traffic behind.
    As a driver I always hang back with such groups regardless of whether they look competent or not. It would’ve cost the driver a few seconds to be patient. It’s a clear case of another driver assuming the road is purely for his/her/it’s vehicle with no impediment to their journey. While for some it may seem non news-worthy its important to flag up as cyclists re-claim road space all over the country and attitudes really do need to change about so called rights. If the driver had performed this cut-in (that’s what it is) during a driving test they would not have passed, that’s a fact.

  • Ben Evans

    All i said was, Maybe a few fullstops may help. It was a joke! If you can`t see the sense in what i`m saying in this video or cycling in general then respectfully you really have no idea what you`re talking about… I see nothing of any value you`ve said in this debate! In reply to you picking me up on my spelling and grammer i will admit i`m not great… hense my joke.. clearly not very funny(to you). Have a nice day!

  • Updownroundandround

    Try watching the video then commenting. The bikes were there first, the car second. The car did not have to get themselves involved in the group, surrounding themselves with ‘meandering fools’. If the car had just stayed behind the group there would have been no issue.

  • Updownroundandround

    I find it hilarious that you keep picking up others on their grammar and spelling when I can barely understand your poorly offered argument! Here’s a few full stops if that helps….

  • Jack Ibbotson

    Could it not be that the reason why the group is in a mess is because a car is pushing through adding a lot of stress and confusion to what already seems like a poor bit of road/cycle route design? Sounds like a nice club/Race Team your in, telling people to pish off before they’ve even had chance to learn the basics.

    Your posts have rattled me because you seem to like making comment on the quality of others riding whilst then shouting about how good you are. Well if your riding 300 miles a week in a race team Im surprised I haven’t heard your name in the results.

    We have all been beginners once and were you not a little bit wobbly when you began. I certainly was.

  • Ian crosby

    This.lot shouldn’tbe.out on the road. They give cyclists a bad name. Poor driver was swamped by meandering fools.

  • ghh

    I can’t see why this is considered newsworthy. It wasn’t particularly slick driving, but it doesn’t look aggressive or especially dangerous either. Bit of a non-story really.

  • Ben Evans

    Maybe a few fullstops may help … lol Cheers David 🙂

  • Ben Evans

    Hi David, Sorry but your explaination is as bad as the mess that i witnesses on watching the video of the cyclists… Sorry i mean no disrespect…. I am in agreement that the motorist should of waited… But anyone who watched this video cannot tell me this is good practice on the cyclist part… It is bloody awful!!! I ride around 300 miles a week on my own and in a club situation… And i`m tellin you if anyone rode like this around me or the people i ride with, they wouldn`t be welcome to ride again… there is enough to deal with on the road that doesn`t move… for example potholes, wet drains, general bad road surface… then put in people who ride like this!!! Sorry but people need to take note!!! I do understand your points though.. again the car should of waited… Sorry to rant on!

  • David j

    well said ben im a coach driver and cycle a lot on my own im courteous to bikers when driving and motorists when cycling and more often than not get a thankyou from motorists when they pass me if the group went across the junction single or double file it would have caused more problems from the red lights at the junction the car driver could see where the cyclists where heading as there where about 30 cyclists that had crossed the junction earlier and where waiting off the main road the car driver was in a lane that he should have turned right

  • Pee Bee

    Can we have that in English please.

  • David j

    Ben the group where turning right imediately after the first junction to get back onto the national cycle track it was safer and quicker to go across the first junction as a bunch not to hold traffic up longer than needed also to be in the right place to be able to take the second turning right the right hand lane at the lights is right turn thats the first right not the second right where the cyclist intended you have riders at the back of the group indicateing where they intend to go the car should have turned right imediately not gone straight on

  • Ben Evans

    Well said

  • Ben Evans

    Well said, Pee Bee… True account of the video… Ceiclo you really need to be more objective about the comments you make… I`m a cyclist in the true sense of the word… but these people, cyclists causes this problem…. I`ve seen this happen many times where cyclists have swamped drivers in rush hour and i`ve seen drivers not knowing where to look or go… Remember there are some motorists who can be nevous around people on bike… Not all people that drive have the intent to bully cyclists, me being one of them… in saying that lets all take this time to be more mindful to each other in general life not just this issue… Safe riding to all!!

  • David j

    Pee at that set of lights the right hand lane where the car was positioned is to turn right imediately not to go through the lights and then go straight on or to take the second turning right

    the cyclists where in the correct lane for where they intended to go

  • Pee Bee

    The cyclists may well be in the correct lane but they are not well placed within that lane, several hogging the kerb before swerving right with no indication and without looking behind them. OK the driver of the car should have waited, but I do not think their driving was aggressive, just not employing much awareness of the road ahead. From the rear view if I were driving behind this group of cyclists I might have thought that they were going straight on, but I would have stayed behind them.

  • Ben Evans

    Well said!

  • Ben Evans

    Hi Jack, That`s your opinion in my book people who ride like this cause more problems to this ongoing issue!!! I never said anything ,about learning to race maybe you need to read back my comments,.. my point was to learn to ride safely in a controlled place… ?! Your point about the driver is right,… so no more needs to be said that goes without saying!! Your comments about racing teams isn`t even worth a reply…. But what i will say i can only speak for the group i ride with… What other teams, groups, clubs do is up to them…

  • Ceiclo

    Regardless of experience, they were in the *correct lane* and the driver tried to push in front.
    Not everyone on a bike is in, or wants to be part of a racing team. Many were novices and they were using the cycle path for as much of the ride as possible. And as for the “appropriate place” They HAD to use this junction to reach the cycle path.

  • Ceiclo

    There’s no confusion here, they were not undercutting traffic.
    The cyclists were in the correct lane. The left hand lane is for straight on. The cyclists needed to go straight on, THEN right *after* the junction.
    The right turn lane at this junction is for turning right, not for heading straight on as the driver did.
    I ride this junction on my way home from work and several times have had drivers use the right turn lane to try and overtake me speed to go straight on.
    The driver should’ve hung back and not attempted a dangerous overtake.

  • shane bennett

    Very poor organization by the cyclists, even a farmer could get 100 cows a cross the road better than this!

  • Jack Ibbotson

    Although i completely agree about the need to be courteous as cyclists to drivers and other road users. Do unto others etc etc

  • Jack Ibbotson

    they are on bikes, I think that thats a pretty clear indication of them being cyclists. This isn’t about learning to race, its about learning and taking your place on the road. The car driver acts aggressively in over taking at this point, the beginner riders do not act aggressively, and whilst they obviously need some practice the sensible option here would be to sit back and see where they are going and wait for a clearer section of road. I probably wouldn’t have responded but I am always a bit dubious of “racing teams”… Personally I think that many “racing teams” contribute little to the sport of cycling (certainly in helping commuters and leisure cyclists who have no interest in racing), but that they also detract from the work of established clubs that do organise races and contribute volunteers.

  • Ben Evans

    Yet another example of people who ride bikes very badly… these are not cyclists!!!! The person driving need to re-think how they drive also… The trouble is cars own the road cyclists do not… I drive all day for work, i also ride 5 times a week with a racing team… I believe in being courteous when in a car or on my bike…. Comments like The group is a collection of novice riders including children, new to cycling and learning as they go is ridiculous!!! I`ve been involved in kids racing and you teach them in an appropriate place not no a busy road… this also goes for novice adults.. time and place rings a bell! Also at points they were 4 abreast, no ones is looking, no hand signals, No communication between them what so ever… this is a recipe for disaster!!! Thank god know one got hurt…. Whoever was in charge of this group need s to re-think what they are doing…

  • Updownroundandround

    I ride this junction every day. The group is a collection of novice riders including children, new to cycling and learning as they go. Sure they are “all over the place”, they are new to it and not highly skilled amateurs on a chain gang. They’re in the correct lane for turning at this junction as the right hand lane is for turning at the lights. This junction connects two parts of the NCN route 4 and is busy every day with cyclists, maybe not to Copenhagen or London standards but it is for Swansea standards. The group’s road positioning is not ideal and yes they are not two abreast but who really expects to be cut across by a car like this, it’s ridiculously impatient driving.
    Oh and it’s Action Bikes, not Acton!

  • Pee Bee

    I feel posting this video as a protest against motorists is on dodgy ground and is not doing the true cause much service. I have the impression of a bunch of vague cyclists who do not seem to know where they are going, do not use signals and have poor road positioning in that some are in the inside lane as if to undercut traffic and then move without any signal into the centre to turn right. I feel the motorist was confused and rightly so. Let’s keep videos relating to poor motoring in proportion and not go overboard otherwise the case will be seriously undermined.

  • Dabber

    Not very great driving but pretty poor riding as well. It looked like this group of riders were all over the place.

  • martin ryan

    Well as a cyclist I have experienced far worse than this, at least the driver was driving slow. I find much greater danger daily with cars and lorries overtaking me at speed while there is oncoming trafic resulting in a very small gap between the bike and the overtaking vehicle, and we all know what it is like trying to avoid the potholes while this is taking place.

  • Steve Hislop

    Yes the driver was impatient but on the other hand the group showed very little sense of road discipline. No one signalled right and many were weaving about all over the place. I would be embarrassed to be a member of that group.